Robert Pattinson TTM Autographs Secretarial?!?!?

[RYAN J.]

Got some news that may surprise some of you. A friend of mine who knows his autographs is claiming that anything recieved from Rob TTM is no authentic. Here's the topic we have going on over at www.rebelscum.com and he's posted pics further on down in the page of his In-person encounters as proof.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.p ... =1#4218870

Feel free to debate voice your opinions (In a clean and nice way) over this!

RYAN J.

[crisabell]

I have always assumed there was something fishy about the Robert Pattison autographs. There is no doubt he is getting tons of fanmail, as one of the main Twilight stars. Plus from most successes I have seen he replies in a fairly short amount of time for how long he should be taking, and personalizes all of the autographs. Something about this sounds odd, or is it just me?? I mean Rob is a busy man obviously! It's not like he spend 24/7 signing autographs!!!! Any further thoughts, or anyone get what I am saying???

[carlyscala]

Hmmm...well I have a signed one from Rob from 2006 in his Goblet of Fire glory TTM, and then in 2009 I sent again for Twilight. The sigs and inscription matched both times and I don't see him giving secretarials back in 2006 when he wasn't really that popular. I'll post scans if people are interested, but I'd like to say Rob's TTM is, or at least was, real!

[crisabell]

Hmmm...well I have a signed one from Rob from 2006 in his Goblet of Fire glory TTM, and then in 2009 I sent again for Twilight. The sigs and inscription matched both times and I don't see him giving secretarials back in 2006 when he wasn't really that popular. I'll post scans if people are interested, but I'd like to say Rob's TTM is, or at least was, real!

Wow, that is very interesting. I just don't know where he would get the time to sign so much!!! I guess popularity has gone down some though, since Justin Bieber. Rob used to be the teenage heart throb, but now it seems everyone has Bieber Fever!! Very interesting topic to dicuss though!!!

[RYAN J.]

Thanks for the opinions! Another thing I was thinking is, Why then are there such long gaps in between replies from him though? I would think with a secretary doing it you'd see replies coming in all the time from him instead of mass mailings like he usually does.

RYAN J.

[carlyscala]

crisabell, does he still sign a lot? i haven't really kept up on his signing or anything because i am not a die-hard twilight fan (HP is my thing ) but if he still signs a lot then that is pretty fishy!

and RYAN J., if I had to say, I would think maybe he just signs them as he has time then sends them all out in big lumps of mail. I think his TTM stuff looks close enough to the rushed IP sigs to be authentic but i'm no expert!

[ursha]

I do not own this guide, it was made by Lizanne (lizard) and posted on CelebAutos
Check it:

Hi!

Many of you repeatedly ask about the authenticy of Robert Pattinson’s TTM autographs, so I’ve decided to make it clear here. Firstly, what does his autograph and handwriting look like?

Examples of in person autographs from AutographWorld.com:


In person autographs of Robert:
Photo 1:
Photo 2:
Photo 3:
Photo 4:
Photo 5:


The above photos are all from different signings, known authentic autographs or from people who have met Robert.

Authentic signed trading card:


The following photos are all TTM autographs received from Robert:
Here is one of the first successes received back in January 2006 (shortly after the release of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire”). Here's a scan of that success received January 26, 2006:

Notice the “To” and the “Best Wishes” part, then compare to the scans below.


Now, compare the above photo to “Photo 1” - both are personalized to “Nadine” and it is clear to see that it was done by the same person, meaning Robert. Even the “Best wishes” part is very similar, the TTM one is just more rushed.


Next, compare this photo to “Photo 2”, again, both are signed to “Eva” and it is the exact same handwriting.


You can compare the above photo to “Photo 3”, names are similar.


This is my autograph from Robert, and the “Liz” part is the same as in “Photo 4”.


Lastly, look at the way he wrote “Robert” in the above scan and compare to “Photo 5”. Particularly the “ert” part of “Robert” - it matches the in person autograph. You can also compare the other TTM autograph, signed to “Raffael” to his in person “R”.

An old TTM success (2006) from Robert, autograph matches to the trading card:


As for his handwriting, here's a questionnaire he filled out (most likely back in 2006/2007) and two in person examples of his writing:

It is very clear to see that the above handwriting matches to all the personalisations, all done by Rob.

Now, the signature itself: he usually signs “Rob Patt”, both in person and TTM. Sometimes it is more clear and othertimes a bit more rushed, but it is clear to see the resemblance in the TTM ones and the in person autographs. There are many photos to compare to as his signature never looks quite the same - if it were secretarial (fake), it would’ve been the same style each time as that’s a common characteristic of secretarial autographs. But in Robert’s case, the signatures are different every time but they all still match all in person examples (compare the above images).

Also, Robert wrote some of the addresses on the envelopes himself, so you can look at the envelope (if he sent his own to you) and compare the handwriting to the in person photos too - he wrote my address on the envelope and it is the exact same handwriting as the in person photos of him at the signing.

So, Robert Pattinson's TTM autographs are authentic signed by him. It is not secretarial/fake - I hope this will end these discussions now.

So I really doubt his autographs are sec...I think there are many more proves for them to be authentic.
-Urša

[Jaffer]

I saw that guide too ^^ Pretty conclusive to me

[army*gurl]

gotta agree...looks real to me

[lizard]

This is very untrue that now suddenly his TTM replies are being called secretarial... Very odd that back when he was only know to most people as Cedric from "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire", and signed so kindly TTM, no one suspected his replies as secretarial... But to me it seems people just think "Twilight = secretarial TTM". :neutral: But I'm not speaking about you Ryan, I know you just asked us!

But anyways, his TTM replies are most definitely not secretarial, and I think anyone who thinks that, are either uninformed that he signed back when he was an "unknown" and his rpelies looked exactly the same as the few that came after "Twlight". Also, it's very interesting to note that his TTM replies came from where he was filming at that time, like last year when he was filming "Remember Me", the return envelopes got postmarked from NY (too much of a coincidence, plus agents are not present on sets):


Furthermore, the in person autographs do, in fact, match to the TTM ones - from the handwriting to the characteristics in the signature:
<--- in person at conventions in 2006
<-- TTM examples pre-Twilight

I see no signs of secretarials there, and Rob even addressed the envelopes himself, and the writing on it looks even more like the in person convention examples (probably because he has to write neater on envelopes!).

Needless to say, Rob doesn't sign TTM much anymore, in fact I haven't seen any replies from him since October 2009 (and he only signed a few then, not to everyone who wrote).

Hope this clears it up!